Thursday, August 9, 2012

McDowell on why not to believe the Bible

From my notes on a Josh McDowell conference:

Josh McDowell believes ironically few have intelligent reasons why they believe anything.
Christians tend to have the same kind of faith as Islam. We don’t know why the Bible is true. 95% answers no different than a Muslim, when asked why they believe.

Here are the top eight reasons Christians say they know Christianity is true.
1. What I have been taught…
2. How my parents raised me…
3. What my church teaches…
4. What I learned in Seminary…
5. I feel that it is true…
6. It’s what I believe…
If anything you believe is true, there would never be heresy
Former generation - I believe it, because it is true
Current generation - Youth – its true, because I believe it.
54% of teenagers leave Christianity because no one will answer my questions
7. I have Faith…

Faith doesn’t make anything true
Truth creates faith 1 Cor 15
If it isn’t true faith is worthless
8. It changed my life…

Muslim – Koran changed their life – Sunni
Lies changes lives
Amway changes lives
They all have to do with being dogmatic, but dogmatic doesn’t mean its true, it just mean its dogmatic.
Josh McDowell says - Don’t ever think that this doesn’t matter or you will loose your children
Raise your children the way you were raised, kiss them good bye
Why? = Every belief system flies in the face of their belief system
You can not take your children farther than what you have gone yourself.
There are hundreds of answers why you are a Christian, but no one can answer one.
50% of kids come to Christ by their 4th birthday
Used to be 50% by their 11th birthday

Oh yeah, you want fulfilled prophecy...


And the God of our fathers, who were led out of Egypt, out of bondage, and also were preserved in the wilderness by him, yea, the God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, yieldeth himself, according to the words of the angel, as a man, into the hands of wicked men, to be lifted up, according to the words of Zenock, and to be crucified, according to the words of Neum, and to be buried in a sepulchre, according to the words of Zenos, which he spake concerning the three days of darkness, which should be a sign given of his death unto those who should inhabit the isles of the sea, more especially given unto those who are of the house of Israel.
1 Nephi 19:10

“They will not harm you except for [some] annoyance. And if they fight you, they will show you their backs (i.e., flee); then they will not be aided.” (Surah 3:111)
“And if those (Meccans) who disbelieve were to fight you, they would certainly turn their backs (i.e., flee). Then they would not find a protector or a helper.” (Surah 48:22)

P.S. - Preach the gospel. And if necessary, use words. ~ St. Francis of Assisi
I was reading a Mormon, who said that part of his reason for converting to mormonism is that he wanted to be like the mormons he saw. Their lifestyle was their evangelism. I have been wondering if how someone of a particular belief lives is sufficient reason for conversion to a particular point of view. In the inspiration/inerrancy controversy, both sides claim that the other side had elements of moral repugnancy. Truth, though seems to rise above the character of a person.

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